Showing posts with label taxes. Show all posts
Showing posts with label taxes. Show all posts

Saturday, February 10, 2018

Who Pays Taxes, 2013-2015 Numbers

I haven't touched on this in a while, and I am continually frustrated by the IRS data being so many years behind. Here's where I got the data.

Here we go:


It's hard to read, but let's focus on the last lines and do some math, as they report this information the exact opposite of how we want to see it.

In 2013:

The bottom half of wage earners account for 11.49% of the total AGI in the country and paid 2.78% of the total income taxes.  Flip that and the top half paid 97.22% of the taxes.

The top 25% reported 68.1% of the AGI and paid 86.27% of the income taxes.

The top 10% reported 45.87% of the AGI and paid 69.8% of the income taxes.

The top 1% earned 19.04% of the AGI and paid 47.8% of the total income taxes.

I'm not rich, but I think there's no argument that "the rich" aren't paying their fair share of the taxes.


**** i found up to 2015, and it appears that the top 1% is paying more...



As you can see, the last column of the Total income tax share is trending downward, meaning that the top 1% must be increasing, paralleling the change in their portion of the AGI. 

Friday, September 1, 2017

More Evidence For Small Government

Just a quick post today as I ponder the bloated mass that is our health care economy....

Got an email at work about my HRA (not FSA or HSA or...you get my point here, right? TOO MANY TYPES OF ACCOUNTS) and in trying to figure out what the "HRA Wellness Credit" was as opposed to the HRA itself, I poked around to determine what I can use the money on.

There is, of course, a site to help you know what is eligible and what is not. It's a very detailed, user-friendly site, in fact, I give it high marks for interface and use. The only reason that such a site is necessary, of course, is because of the aforementioned bloated mass that is American Health Insurance and Care, Inc. That's right, folks, because the US Gov't has a hand in all of this, there are strings attached to the $$ that your company GIVES YOU or that you have WITHHELD FROM YOUR PAY expressly for the purpose of offsetting uncovered medical costs.

Chard Snyder has a handy site to help you spend your FSA (and HRA?) dollars, in fact. Of course they do, why in the world would they miss out on this opportunity to keep the dollars that they manage for you? Seriously, they would be stupid not to!


I am trying to point out that all of this economic activity (building websites to help wade through the ridiculous restrictions on what you can spend health care dollars on, companies existing to manage your HRAs, FSAs, etc.) is only necessary because the Federal Gov't is so thoroughly enmeshed into what should be an independent sector of the economy. Ridiculous.

I tell you, this thought has roots in an old realization when working for a small family business that they had to waste money employing an accountant and payroll service because of the morass of taxes imposed by the federal government and the requirement to withhold payroll taxes rather than a much simpler (for the business) idea that I, the earner, am responsible for paying my quarterly income taxes and must therefore save a portion of my income and write that painful check a few times a year. These businesses are essentially forced to do the work (and pay for the privilege) of the IRS. Ridiculous.

Imagine the tax revolt we would have if there was no such thing as withholding?



Tuesday, April 8, 2014

Who Pays Taxes In The United States

So, a lunchtime conversation about stuff led me to re-researching these numbers.

According to Tax Foundation: 

In 2011, the top 10 percent of taxpayers 

(with AGIs above $120,000) accounted for 45.4 percent of all AGI and 68.3 percent of all income taxes paid.

Taxpayers in the top 5 percent accounted for 33.9 percent of all AGI and 56.5 percent of all income taxes paid.

The top 1 percent of all taxpayers accounted for 18.7 percent of all AGI and 35.1 percent of all income taxes paid.

A more Democrat leaning group puts it this way: 


In fact, when all taxes (state, local, excise) are considered, the share of taxes that each fifth of households pays is similar to its share of the nation’s total income.[22]  
ITEP data show that in 2011,
the bottom fifth of households received 3.4 percent of the total income in the nation and paid 2.1 percent of the total taxes. 
The middle fifth of households received 11.4 percent of income and paid 10.3 percent of taxes. 
The top 1 percent of households received 21.0 percent of income and paid 21.6 percent of taxes.  The tax system as a whole is only mildly progressive.[23]

(don't you like how they use "received" instead of "earned?")


This is from Table 7, near the bottom of the page. It's not apples to apples to the numbers above, as it's using something called "1979 Income Concept" Income Excluding Dependents (Finding this info is a nightmare, so go for it if you don't believe me).

Total income tax share (percentage):
Total
Top
1 percent
Top
5 percent
Top
10 percent
Top
25 percent
Top
50 percent
    2010
100.00
35.93
57.89
69.76
86.51
97.47
Income share (percentage):
Total
Top
1 percent
Top
5 percent
Top
10 percent
Top
25 percent
Top
50 percent
    2010
100.00
20.10
35.94
47.33
69.00
88.57


More fully,

Descending cumulative percentiles


Total
Top
1 percent
Top
5 percent
Top
10 percent
Top
25 percent
Top
50 percent
Income floor on percentiles (current dollars):






    2001
N/A
338,608
136,580
97,538
58,195
31,185
    2002
N/A
328,275
136,465
97,466
58,491
31,065
    2003
N/A
340,175
138,852
99,177
59,298
31,207
    2004
N/A
377,837
147,206
104,106
61,878
32,284
    2005
N/A
418,709
157,306
109,543
63,929
33,035
    2006
N/A
452,917
167,342
114,981
66,401
33,971
    2007
N/A
479,542
174,409
119,564
68,487
34,989
    2008
N/A
444,522
171,470
119,542
68,594
34,754
    2009
N/A
394,632
163,619
115,951
66,785
33,573
    2010
N/A
424,734
169,181
118,957
67,412
33,800
Income floor on percentiles (constant dollars): [1]






    2001
N/A
249,895
100,797
71,984
42,948
23,015
    2002
N/A
238,572
99,175
70,833
42,508
22,576
    2003
N/A
241,602
98,616
70,438
42,115
22,164
    2004
N/A
261,479
101,873
72,046
42,822
22,342
    2005
N/A
280,260
105,292
73,322
42,790
22,112
    2006
N/A
293,720
108,523
74,566
43,062
22,030
    2007
N/A
302,359
109,968
75,387
43,182
22,061
    2008
N/A
269,898
104,111
72,582
41,648
21,101
    2009
N/A
240,483
99,707
70,659
40,698
20,459
    2010
N/A
254,637
101,427
71,317
40,415
20,264
Total income tax (millions of dollars):  [2]
Total
Top
1 percent
Top
5 percent
Top
10 percent
Top
25 percent
Top
50 percent
    2001
884,931
284,927
455,272
557,726
717,266
840,233
    2002
794,282
253,551
411,671
507,083
652,529
759,423
    2003
745,514
242,869
392,561
478,771
613,326
713,728
    2004
829,096
290,915
459,555
552,298
691,364
795,814
    2005
931,693
352,361
540,674
640,865
788,316
896,842
    2006
1,020,438
389,673
596,816
707,802
867,486
983,924
    2007
1,111,872
429,288
654,793
774,831
947,875
1,072,649
    2008
1,028,669
371,962
586,042
703,879
874,955
995,045
    2009
863,486
301,881
492,834
595,962
743,117
840,401
    2010
949,144
341,053
549,474
662,135
821,104
925,107
Average tax rate (percentage): [3]
Total
Top
1 percent
Top
5 percent
Top
10 percent
Top
25 percent
Top
50 percent
    2001
14.20
25.29
22.14
20.38
17.64
15.71
    2002
12.96
24.63
21.14
19.29
16.44
14.46
    2003
11.84
22.18
19.28
17.51
14.93
13.18
    2004
12.01
21.50
19.20
17.57
15.02
13.30
    2005
12.33
21.43
19.32
17.78
15.31
13.59
    2006
12.43
20.89
19.01
17.63
15.29
13.64
    2007
12.54
20.65
18.94
17.61
15.35
13.73
    2008
12.21
21.02
18.94
17.46
15.05
13.36
    2009
11.15
21.43
18.74
16.88
14.11
12.28
    2010
11.46
20.49
18.46
16.89
14.37
12.61
Income share (percentage):
Total
Top
1 percent
Top
5 percent
Top
10 percent
Top
25 percent
Top
50 percent
    2001
100.00
18.07
32.98
43.90
65.23
85.79
    2002
100.00
16.80
31.77
42.90
64.75
85.73
    2003
100.00
17.39
32.33
43.43
65.27
86.03
    2004
100.00
19.61
34.69
45.56
66.70
86.71
    2005
100.00
21.76
37.04
47.71
68.16
87.32
    2006
100.00
22.73
38.24
48.91
69.13
87.89
    2007
100.00
23.45
38.99
49.61
69.67
88.13
    2008
100.00
21.01
36.72
47.83
69.00
88.41
    2009
100.00
18.20
33.97
45.60
68.00
88.39
    2010
100.00
20.10
35.94
47.33
69.00
88.57
Total income tax share (percentage):
Total
Top
1 percent
Top
5 percent
Top
10 percent
Top
25 percent
Top
50 percent
    2001
100.00
32.20
51.45
63.02
81.05
94.95
    2002
100.00
31.92
51.83
63.84
82.15
95.61
    2003
100.00
32.58
52.66
64.22
82.27
95.74
    2004
100.00
35.09
55.43
66.61
83.39
95.99
    2005
100.00
37.82
58.03
68.78
84.61
96.26
    2006
100.00
38.19
58.49
69.36
85.01
96.42
    2007
100.00
38.61
58.89
69.69
85.25
96.47
    2008
100.00
36.16
56.97
68.43
85.06
96.73
    2009
100.00
34.96
57.08
69.02
86.06
97.33
    2010
100.00
35.93
57.89
69.76
86.51
97.47


Or, in a sentence, in 2010:

the top 1% earned 20.10% of the income and paid 35.93% of the taxes,
the top 5% earned 35.94% of the income and paid 57.89% of the taxes,
the top 10% earned 47.33% of the income and paid 69.76% of the taxes,
the top 25% earned 69% of the income and paid 86.51% of the taxes,
and the top 50% earned 88.57% of the income and paid 97.47% of the taxes.